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Welcome to the Medical Medium Podcast.
I'm Anthony Williams.
We're interviewing my dad.
That's right, my dad.
We're going to talk about a lot of different things.
There's wisdom in this talk.
We touch upon souls, wildlife, and even mulberry trees.
We cover a little bit about foraging, and we even talk about some of my childhood experiences.
My dad's a really special guy.
He's got a lot of life experience himself.
He's connected to nature.
He's a hard worker.
And if you like his interview, let us know.
Maybe we'll do more because there's so much ground to cover, both in my life, my childhood,
So many experiences together.
And there's knowledge to be gleaned.
Hidden meanings.
Life lessons.
And it's just great to shoot the shit with my dad.
So get ready for this one.
Do fasten your seatbelts and strap yourself in.
You're going to need it.
Because we're taking a ride with my dad and I.
Hey dad, glad to have you on.
I can't believe it took this long though.
Yeah, it took this long because, you know, you're busy.
And I was busy and time just flew by.
Yeah.
And plus, you don't like, what, getting in front of the camera?
Exactly.
I'm camera shy.
And mic shy?
Mic shy.
I'm shy.
Well, we're doing it now.
So, hey, Dad, how old are you now?
I'm old.
Well, I'm old.
So then.
I'm a lot older.
Well, how old do you think your soul is?
About a million.
I believe that because all the years I've known you, which is my whole life,
you've been able to see a lot of things that other people don't see.
And that's the thing about you.
And that's not because, you know, you're an older guy.
You've been here a long time.
I've seen you see things that people don't see.
I've seen all kinds of stuff.
Like when we rescue animals, we rescue turtles.
you have like an intuition of what's out there, what's around you. And I think it's like foresight.
You have that foresight. And the other thing is you actually care. You know, there's not a lot of
men out there that actually care about everything or details and little things and care about people
and what they're going through. Like you've always had a vision. You feel up to talking
about turtles for a second. Yeah. Okay. So how many turtles have we rescued? I would say a
hundredth of turtles. What kind of turtles? Big snapping turtles? All kinds. All kinds, right?
Yeah. All kinds of turtles. Painter turtles, big snapping turtles. Yep. The whole variety.
Mud turtles. Everything. So I just want to ask you, like, why do you care about turtles so much?
and I've known this since I was a baby, a child.
I've been in love with turtles since I was a young kid.
And it's like, I don't know.
I feel like they have a soul.
Yeah, well, they do have a soul.
They do.
Tell everybody about the story you always tell me
when you would be, when you were a kid
and you would see a turtle in a pond.
You would dive in.
Yeah.
I'd be in my clothes walking along the side of a pond, see a turtle head pop up.
And that was it.
I jumped in, went and felt around and grabbed that turtle right away and took it home.
And it was a pet for a while.
And then I let it go.
And I'm just in love with turtles.
Yeah.
I mean, but you cared for it.
You took care of it and you knew to let it go.
Yeah.
You knew you had to.
Oh, I had to let it go.
it's hard to keep a turtle what were what were the first turtles you saved when you know before
i was born well it was like spotted turtles um snapping turtles were they were they like box
turtles they lost well they were most of the time it was on streets yeah they were going across the
street with with traffic i mean you know there was traffic back with nowhere to go though no pond
heading to, you know, no lake. They're just in the middle of like a highway.
Well, they were heading for a lake, but a lake might've been a mile away.
Yeah. And they had to cross a lot of roads.
Yeah.
We see turtles get squashed now.
Yeah. I mean, we live dangerously when you think about it. We're on the highway saving the turtle.
Mom's screaming at me. I got the car stopped on the side of the road. I'm running out there to
grab a turtle and bring it in. Oh yeah. Save it. Yeah, I know. I mean, I remember. It's crazy what
we've done in our lives. I remember a lot of different turtle savings. Like in Maine, I stopped
the car on the side of the highway, right? On this dangerous, dangerous part of the highway.
And I never recommend this for people. Just got to watch out. You can get killed easy. You know,
I mean, we know that.
Yeah, it's great.
And I pulled over and it was this gigantic snapping turtle that had barely any life left
in it.
It was probably a hundred years old and had like, it was, it was, its head almost was
basically out and it was done.
You know, that's what happens when they die.
And, but I knew it had a pulse.
Spirit told me it was alive and it was, you know, still, it was still savable.
I picked up that baby.
I threw it in the back of the car and I got to a big old pond and, you know, I put it
right in the water on the edge and it just slowly came to life, you know, slowly came
to life.
And it was just, but I risked my life doing it and you have too.
Oh yeah.
Many a times.
Even just recently, like just in the last couple of years, you and I have like, we've
jumped out to save a bunch of turtles.
Yeah.
yeah i hate seeing them squashed yeah i hate seeing a car or a driver not even care
you know or a truck and they don't even care they just they're just like
you know screw that going down the road and that's it man yeah they just say screw that
and they just squash it yep and they think it's funny you know and then there's people that aren't
even looking where they're going you know just yeah just run over everything texting yeah exactly
Exactly. You know, dad, remember our little pond that we had, it was just a big rain came
and it filled this area that was 15 by 15, maybe 15 by 20 feet, right?
Yeah, about a foot deep.
And then the puddle was there. And then a couple of weeks later,
we noticed there were these little tiny fish in there.
Yeah. We couldn't figure out where they came from.
Yeah. Right. And then I asked spirit and spirit said they came from the sky,
the little fish, tiny little fish, came from the sky during a rain.
Yeah.
But what was crazy was this pond became like a supernatural pond on our property.
So as the pond was drying up, because it wasn't a natural pond,
we had to keep water to it, right?
Yeah, we had to bring water from the well and run it down in a hose to keep it from drying up.
Then we start feeding the fish to keep them alive.
And then one morning,
you called me up and said to me,
guess what's in our pond?
And I said, could it be a turtle?
And you said, yes, a baby turtle.
It was the size of a small pancake or like a silver dollar.
I said to you, I'll be right up.
I'm going to pick up krill.
See you in a little while.
And then when you got there,
you threw a couple little pieces of krill.
Turtle was shy at first.
Yeah.
And you broke it into pieces and you put it there on the pond that we were feeding with water,
keeping it going.
It's 15 by 20 foot, like one foot deep only.
Little baby turtle started to nibble.
He was so cute.
He found a sanctuary.
Yeah.
Is what happened.
He was a baby turtle on his own.
There's no water to be found anywhere out there.
Became his home.
Became his home.
He had a long journey.
Yep.
And we saved a turtle.
Became our pet.
Yeah.
So we were feeding that turtle for a couple of years.
Yeah, definitely.
And tell everybody what showed up.
Well, the turtle got bigger.
Yeah.
And bigger.
Yeah.
And the fish got bigger.
Right.
Everything was growing.
The fish were like two or three inches big.
Yeah.
From tiny little things.
And then one morning I got up and spirit said, look into the pond.
And I was like, well, I figured the turtle might've gotten bigger or maybe there was
another turtle in the pond or some other kind of surprise.
I walked down to the pond and I'm looking like confused.
I was like confused.
It's like, what is this?
What am I looking at?
And it was a.
You called me up.
Remember?
Yeah.
Again.
Yeah.
I said, Dad.
Guess what's in the pond.
You won't believe this.
And I couldn't guess.
I had to come over.
You had to come over, right?
Yep.
To see.
And what'd you see?
Baby alligator.
Unbelievable.
It was.
The baby gator was only about a foot.
And the baby gator ate the same food that the turtle and the fish ate.
The krill.
Yeah.
And the baby gator loved it.
Loved it.
And so when we would go to the pond to feed everybody, feed the turtle.
The baby gator.
Yeah, the baby gator would make a noise.
Like when we came down to feed him, he would go.
He was happy to see us.
Yeah.
He was friendly.
He was happy.
He came up and he wanted his krill.
Yeah.
So what was the next thing that showed up in this supernatural sanctuary of a pond?
That was a, you know, a big catfish showed up.
We couldn't figure out how that happened.
Yeah.
And it was there all of a sudden.
No one put it in there.
It was a big catfish.
I mean, it was a foot long.
It had some weight to it.
It looked like it's a couple pounds easy.
And guess what?
Yeah.
It ate the same food.
It ate the same food.
So the catfish ate the krill.
Yeah.
Came out out of nowhere, like out of the mud.
Came up and start grabbing the krill.
The turtle would go and float along the top and eat all the krill.
Yeah.
The alligator was friends with the turtle.
Yeah.
They were friends.
They were buddies.
I know.
The alligator, the baby alligator would eat the krill and they all just.
They were all having a good time.
They were and they were safe.
They were in the sanctuary and they were all happy.
What about the frogs?
The frogs that we didn't mention.
No, I know.
All of a sudden, the pond had all these frogs.
Yeah.
And they were laying eggs like in that gooey stuff.
And then we had tap holes.
Yeah.
So we had tap holes, all these fish.
Yeah.
A big catfish.
We had a turtle and we had an alligator.
And they were all friends.
And they were all talking to each other in there.
They were all happy.
And it's not like a real pond.
It was a puddle foot deep.
Yeah.
15 by say 20.
Enough for them to survive in for forever.
Right by the road, asphalt was like right near it.
And we had a hose coming from my well.
Yep.
Going on down.
Yep.
Well, we made that hose hit this dirt before it actually went into the pond.
Remember?
So that the water wasn't streaming into the pond.
We let the water from the hose drizzle on down.
Like a filter.
Yeah.
In a way.
On the land.
Yeah.
Let it drizzle on down to the pond.
Like a natural thing.
Yeah.
Create it like a natural sanctuary to save these beautiful animals.
Boy, I miss those times.
Yeah, I do too.
You know, it was like a miracle because how they found that puddle of a pond
It's just a whole other thing.
And how we fell in love with those little creatures.
No, I know.
I mean, they gave us so much.
Those little guys had souls.
It was a real relationship we had with them.
It really was.
So, Dad, what have you been doing lately?
I know you're not sitting on your butt.
You work hard.
You're in good shape.
You're strong as an ox.
You got more muscle than I have right now.
I mean, and you physically do a lot of work.
So what are you up to these days?
Well, I've been doing mulberry trees.
I've been taking cuttings from the trees because they lost all their leaves and now they're ready to bud out.
And I'm taking cuttings and I'm going to plant them in the ground and have a whole bunch of mulberry trees.
And they're going to go somewhere.
Well, and you're not just doing like a couple of cuttings.
I mean, how many cuttings are we talking about?
A couple hundred cuttings.
So we're going to have another couple of hundred mulberry trees.
Yes.
We're going to be like Johnny Appleseed.
Yeah.
You got to keep growing mulberry trees all over.
How many years have we been doing this?
And that's the thing.
People don't know this about me, about you, about us.
Yeah.
But we've been growing mulberry trees our whole lives.
I mean, going all the way back.
Yeah.
We've planted thousands of them.
Thousands?
Thousands of them.
Like for real though?
Like thousands.
That's not like.
Yeah.
We can't stop.
I know.
We have to keep planting.
Different varieties.
Big berries, little berries, wild ones.
What about wild ones?
White, black, dark blue, all colors.
Yeah.
Pink.
So what's your favorite?
All different varieties.
So you're propagating right now, right?
Right.
so what's you got a method you cut the cutting yeah it's hard ass work it's it's hard oh yeah
yeah it's hard it's hard bending over a lot of bending over a lot of knee work you know
yeah it's back breaking too yeah that's what i mean bending over yeah that'll do you in but
no i keep doing it i have to stay in shape yeah i have to keep going yeah you stop
you stop that's not good well every time you get me out there you know on the mulberry trees
and you get me cutting i mean i'm sore by the end of that day like i am sore it's not a joke
yeah it's labor it's labor it's labor it's intense love it though so what so what's the goal the goal
is to have this massive mulberry crop so you could share it with the birds oh what about the birds
that come in and then take half the crop.
Sometimes they-
Wax wings?
Wax wing birds come in by 400 or 500 of them.
They'll stay and wait until the mulberries are ripe
and then they'll feed on them and then they'll leave.
Yeah.
They'll take the crop and leave.
Yeah, they'll piss us off.
They get fat too.
They do.
Yeah.
They do.
Then they go and lay all their eggs
after they've eaten all those mulberries.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Next year, they'll be back.
What's your favorite thing about when the mulberries are ripe and they're just-
Oh, yeah.
And you're gobbling them down.
You have your face up looking at the sky and you're just feeding your mouth with mulberries
and you're choking on them and you're loving them.
Yeah.
And they're just dripping off the trees.
Delicious.
Yeah.
And they're so juicy and they stain everything.
Like they stain my shirt, my pants.
Yep.
I can roll around in them.
I love them so much.
Yeah, it's a very spiritual fruit too.
What I like doing is a mulberry meditation
where when they're all ripe
and they're like jewels on the stems just hanging down
and I just look up and I'm looking up at them
and I'm just picking them
and I'm just in this deep meditative state.
And the thing about mulberry trees is they get really tall.
So what do we have to do there?
So what I do is when they don't have leaves on them
and I'm ready to do cuttings, I take it from the tops of the trees because they grow straight up.
The trees grow so fast and they get so big that when the mulberries come, you have to shake the
trees to get the mulberries out because you pick all the bottom stuff and the ones up above,
you have to just shake and shake and we have. Or you need a big ladder. You got to climb up a tall
ladder and get to the tops and that's really hard to pick from up there. Yeah. And you have to keep
moving the ladder around and around, you know, it's, it's a lot of extra work. It's hard work.
Yeah. So dad, what's it like being the father of the medical medium? It's, it's amazing.
I'm always blown away by what you have done and accomplished and you save so many people's lives.
Dad, did it come with a lot of hassles along the way?
Yes, it did.
Yeah, you were a pain in the ass.
We'd take you to the grocery store and you'd be pulling on people's arms and telling them
what was wrong with them.
And it was embarrassing.
And people would say, hey, what's wrong with your kid?
You know?
Yeah, there's no time for this in a grocery store.
You know, people are pushing carriages and, you know, some people were interested, but
you just couldn't do that. You know, we had to cut the visits short.
Well, you know, I was eight years old, six years old, nine years old. And there were people that
were interested. Sure they were, but you, but they keep you there. And then you and mom can't shop.
Yeah. We, we, we couldn't concentrate on anything when that happened.
Yeah. If I got stuck, like working on someone, you know, I'm sitting there like eight, nine years
old and I'm working on someone and they're really interested and they're, they're like
freaked out or blown away you guys can't do your grocery shopping and then it just ruins the whole
drove us crazy but it brought on a lot of awkward moments too because i mean remember when that one
thing happened yeah when people follow us out to the parking lot and and want more information from
the the little boy you know and it's raining out on top of things i mean there's a lot of difficult
situations that came up with that.
Yeah.
And then they just wouldn't let us go.
No.
We're trying to load the groceries.
You guys, you and mom are trying to load the groceries in the car.
Trying to make a getaway.
Yeah.
I'm sitting here talking to three or four people.
Come on, Anthony, let's go.
Come on.
That was the start of things to come.
There was more people and crowds and it was, it was crazy.
When I was a kid.
Yeah.
you know but hey here we are today but now it's it's so amazing because you healed thousands of
people through the years since you were young thousands we watched you work hard through the
years you know in your office on the phone all kinds of hours into the night yeah emergency
calls. You, you, you worked your ass off seven days a week. Oh yeah. How many vacations did I
take? None. I don't remember one vacation at all. No. Yeah. And your whole life. No,
I never took a vacation. Oh my God. It's actually like, it's sad, but it, it is what it is. Yeah.
I mean, I would start, I would start in my office at six in the morning until 12 in the morning,
you know, would just be like, and then if I got some sleep, it would be, you know,
interrupted with like 24 hour emergency calls. Well, I remember, I mean, a lot of people had
to be helped into your office. They were so sick. Yeah. I mean, you saw it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
I've seen a lot of lives change. So dad, what was one of the funny things you remember about
my office is. Like if you walk into my office. Well, your office had shelves, hundreds of glass
jars full of herbs and spices and your office smelled like a barn.
Because it might have been from like- Well, not really a barn, but you know, it's-
No, it did. It did. You know, there was like hundreds of glass jars on the walls.
Yeah. Right. Filled with all the medicinals, the herbs, the spices. And it did. It smelled like hay.
Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. Not manure.
Yeah. Yes. But they were very important because spirit would tell you how to mix
the herbs and spices when sick people would come in and you would make special mixes for that
certain sickness that they had and that would help them. And then everybody would say,
you need to write a book. Because you couldn't handle, you couldn't handle all the people.
You know, there would have to be a couple hundred of you to even handle.
Well, the waiting list was in the thousands, then it went into the hundreds of thousands,
then it went into the millions. Yeah. So you wrote books. So everybody could buy your books
and read them. And that would cut down on you with all these phone calls. Yeah. Just reminding me,
I would hear that all the time. Like, oh my God, I'd hear, when are you writing your book? When
you're writing your book? It's like, well, can't be writing a book. I have like all these people
I got to take care of. I got to look after these people. I mean, 24 seven. I worked 20 hour days.
every day, seven days a week. You know it. It was insane. It was like, sometimes you'd see me and
there'd be like nothing left to me. I didn't do any self-care. Like self-care was not even,
I said, I wasn't even, even like, nevermind a vacation, which I've never taken. Like you said,
but self-care, it's just no way. It was, it was just 20 hour days. If I could get four hours of
sleep every night for years. Yeah. And I hardly saw you. Yeah. Yeah. And when you did see me,
I was just in my office. Yeah. Only for a few minutes. Yeah. You were so busy. Yeah. It's
really sad. And then write the book, write the book. Crazy. And people don't understand that.
How much time of your life you put for this? Yeah. Well, you know, it's, you know, when people
are chronically sick, you know, it's, it's like, it's critical, you know, we help them. And that's
what, that's the message I got from spirit of compassion. And that's the message that I held
into my heart. It's, it is just no matter what, it's hard to rest when you know that many people
are suffering out there. And I just, I didn't care about myself. I cared about myself. Of course,
I tried to give myself the basics. And I had spirit to help me with that. But the bottom line
was, it was like people are suffering. And it was just, it's terrifying when you see that many
people in the world sick and they don't have answers. And you just want to give them answers.
You want to help as many people as you can. And the thing is now, I work 20 hour days now.
So it's like, this is a thing of the past and it's kind of not. And that's a funny thing too.
Even though you see me, I'm still writing the books and I'm writing one now. I'm still working
really hard trying to give as much free information as I can. You see it all the time. You watch
watch me when I'm on Instagram. You watch me when I'm YouTube and you're watching me during
the lives and everything. And you got a code name. Is spirit going to let you retire at any point?
I don't know. So dad, I'm noticing right now on the table here that you got a drink and it's like
blue and purple. It's in a bottle. Like, what is that? Well, that's what I drink every day.
I squeeze a lemon and a lime, and I do a half a bottle of wild blueberry juice, and the rest is water.
It's about 50 ounces.
Okay.
That sounds like a really good recipe.
Yeah.
So that's your go-to?
Yeah, that's it.
That keeps me alive.
You do that every morning?
Every morning.
It looks good.
I drink it. I drink it probably until one o'clock and then I make another bottle.
So you're doing lemon, lime, and wild blueberry in water all day.
Right.
So dad, what were some of the annoying things in my childhood that you and mom had to deal with?
Well, you would always go into the woods and disappear.
Yeah. And you guys would get upset.
Sure we would. Yeah. But you'd always come out.
Eventually.
Yeah.
Yeah. One time you came out of the woods, you were really sick.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You had a little poisoning going on.
From foraging.
Yeah. I think it was, was it ferns?
Yeah, fiddleheads.
Something about ferns. Fiddleheads.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I was eight years old.
Oh, yeah. You're sick as a dog.
Yeah, I had a bad stomach ache. I'd go into the woods and forage, spend a whole day in there.
drive you guys crazy. You didn't know where I went. Yeah. You know, I was just thinking when
I was young, I used to do the same thing and I ate these, they looked like string beans.
They were like pods, right? And they had like peas in them. And a friend of mine told me he
was eating them. They were good, right? So I ate a bunch of them. Next thing you know, I was sick,
thrown up. I had high fevers. I got poison from them. Every time I saw those beans that
grew wild would sicken me just seeing them. Yeah, but you had spirit. And what happened there on
that? Well, you know, spirit would tell me what mushroom to eat is safe one, even though they're,
I would tell, I'm telling anybody out there, don't forage for mushrooms, whatever you do,
because you'll eventually pick a bad mushroom.
But Spirit would tell me when mushrooms were safe,
Spirit would have me eat different types of skunk cabbage,
fiddlehead ferns, plantain, rose hips,
all kinds of different things.
Well, didn't you eat hickory nuts and walnuts?
Yeah, wild hickory nuts.
Right, I remember that.
I would just go up to a tree and Spirit would say,
you can eat these.
remember I would bring home a basket of hickory nuts yeah and mom would be like oh oh no like what
is he what is he bringing home to eat now from the woods they were good they were good I told
you I told you to eat them yeah and they were good yeah delicious but that one time I came out
of the woods really sick was I overate all the fiddlehead ferns and I just ate them and ate them
and ate them and ate them until I was stuffed.
And it just didn't sit right.
And I crawled out of those woods.
Like I crawled out of them.
Yeah, mom and I were really worried about you.
Wow, we talked about a lot of things, dad.
We talked about the baby alligator.
We talked about the turtles.
We did.
Yeah, it was fun.
We covered a lot.
Yep.
I had a good time.
And you came out here.
You did the interview with me right during the busy time when you're working on your mulberry trees, which from here you're going out to work on.
Yeah.
I mean, you still got the rest of the day.
There's a lot to do.
Time flies.
Time flies.
Does it ever?
It does.
Decade after decade.
You know, it hit me really hard when you talked about how I never took a vacation.
I'm still thinking about that.
Still thinking about that.
You're due for one.
I'm due for one.
I mean, what the heck?
My first vacation ever?
Well, I don't know.
You got to make it happen.
Oh, man.
I'm just glad we can make this happen right now.
Yeah.
That's what I'm glad about.
Mm-hmm.
Dad, you're almost finished with your special drink.
What's in there again?
It's lemon, lime, and wild blueberry juice.
What else?
Water.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's a big drink.
Yeah.
And you actually almost completely finished it.

I'm drunk on happiness.
Are you going to make another one before the day goes on?
Definitely.
Nice.
Nice.
That's a tasty concoction right there.
I love it.
Looks like blue and purple all together.
I'll be doing mulberry pretty soon.
Wait a minute.
What kind of mulberry drinks in mulberry?
What do you do for that?
I'll be doing mulberry and coconut water.
Oh, my God.
That's unbelievable.
The mulberries blend it with coconut water.
Yeah.
Delicious.
that is incredible
we've had that before a lot
you've had it every year
been drinking it for years
yeah me too I'm guilty of it too
that is an incredible
incredible delicacy
I'm excited about all of it
thank you for being on
you're welcome love you
love you too
Thank you.
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of gimmicky confusion. Because chronic illness is exploding like never before in our modern day
history, it takes a greater force than us down here. It takes a helping hand from above.
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getting their lives back and finally healing when nothing else in the world of health could move
the needle and get them better. The information on this podcast is not man-made. It comes from
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creator, or if you believe in nothing at all, that we're just floating through space together on this
rock. Know that the information you hear on this podcast is separate from all the other noise out
there. It comes from a different place, a pure, untampered with, advanced, clean, uncorrupted,
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